VW Passat sahipleri ve sevenler kulübü (84. sayfa)

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Orjinalden alıntı: meke

quote: Orjinalden alıntı: mulligun arkadaşlar a4 1.8 tfsı 160 bg multitronic aldım.10 gün içinde teslim alacağım. teslim aldıktan sonra burada paylaşırım. konuyu araç tercih kıyaslamada paylaşıyorum.linki aşağıda. http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_25984365/mpage_1/key_//tm.htm#26014381

tekrar hayırlı olsun.

Baktım da A3 için 1,6 - 1,4 - 2,0 benzinlilere ve 1,9 - 2,0 dizellere hep Stronik , yani DSG konmuş. Sadece 1,8 için düz vites tek seçenek, bu da quattro olmasından kaynaklanıyor olabilir.

ne dersin?

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Orjinalden alıntı: mulligun

bende bir anlam veremiyorum.aynı durum vw de de var.

vardır bir bildikleri.

benim aracım multitronic ve sekiz ileri diye biliyorum inşallah yanlış bilgi değildir.

birde merak ettiğim konu şudur.bu araba 150 ile giderken sekizinci vitesde devir saati kaçta olur acaba.

quote: Orjinalden alıntı: meke quote: Orjinalden alıntı: mulligun arkadaşlar a4 1.8 tfsı 160 bg multitronic aldım.10 gün içinde teslim alacağım. teslim aldıktan sonra burada paylaşırım. konuyu araç tercih kıyaslamada paylaşıyorum.linki aşağıda. http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_25984365/mpage_1/key_//tm.htm#26014381 tekrar hayırlı olsun. Baktım da A3 için 1,6 - 1,4 - 2,0 benzinlilere ve 1,9 - 2,0 dizellere hep Stronik , yani DSG konmuş. Sadece 1,8 için düz vites tek seçenek, bu da quattro olmasından kaynaklanıyor olabilir. ne dersin?

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Orjinalden alıntı: turkwell.com

valla bende almayı düşünüyorum.üründe sorun varmı.kumandaların hepsi calısıyormu. bide bana nerden kaca aldın sıfırmıydı bildirirsen sevinirim.

quote: Orjinalden alıntı: msi675 quote: Orjinalden alıntı: muratslx http://urun.gittigidiyor.com/PASSAT-JETTA-ORJ-7-quot-TV-BLUETOTH-DAHILI-NAVGASYO_W0QQidZZ12044397 bu cihazı almayı düşünüyorum. elden 1250 alabiliriyorum. lütfen yorumlarınızı esirgemeyin .:))

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Orjinalden alıntı: msi675

nakit 1300 e aldım navigasyon yazılımı dahil sol tuşlar kullanılıyor fakat sağ tuşlar kullanılamıyor.ankaradan elden aldım.satan arkadaşın yeri yurdu belli sana kargo ile sanırım gönderir

quote: Orjinalden alıntı: turkwell.com valla bende almayı düşünüyorum.üründe sorun varmı.kumandaların hepsi calısıyormu. bide bana nerden kaca aldın sıfırmıydı bildirirsen sevinirim. quote: Orjinalden alıntı: msi675 quote: Orjinalden alıntı: muratslx http://urun.gittigidiyor.com/PASSAT-JETTA-ORJ-7-quot-TV-BLUETOTH-DAHILI-NAVGASYO_W0QQidZZ12044397 bu cihazı almayı düşünüyorum. elden 1250 alabiliriyorum. lütfen yorumlarınızı esirgemeyin .:))

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Orjinalden alıntı: msi675

youtube erişim yasak olduğu için bakamadım msn koprululer@hotmail.com
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Orjinalden alıntı: hexa

2009 passat 1.4 manuel ile dsg 7 arasında 5300ytl gib bir fiyat farkı var. bunun yanı sıra teknik verilerinde 10nm. lik bir fark var. yakıt sarfiyatının düşmesinde bu tork farkının da etkisi olduğunu düşünüyorum.

acaba bu tork farkı sadece araç yazılımından mı kaynaklanıyor yoksa dsg olmasından dolayı mı oluşuyor. eğer yazılımsal ise beygir yükseltmeden tork değeri 210nm ye yükseltilerek aynı yakıt değerleri manuel araçta da yakalanabilirmi_?

konuyla ilgili teknik bilgisi olan arkadaşların açıklamalarını büyük bir merakla bekliyorum...

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Orjinalden alıntı: mulligun

bende merak ediyorum nasıl bir deneyim olacağını. düşünmesi bile keyif veriyor insana.

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Multitronic is Audi's name for their new continuously variable transmission. The continuously variable transmission (CVT) concept, based on the long-established principle of the chain drive transmission has been improved by Audi for use in high performance premium segment vehicles. Audi recently presented this technology to the "Best New Technology" panel of the Automobile Journalists Association of Canada (AJAC) at their annual Car of the Year test-fest. One technology will be awarded this year's AJAC Best New Technology award in the new year. Will the Audi Multitronic be the winner?

According to Audi, this transmission sets new standards in driving performance and fuel economy, as well as in handling dynamics and comfort. It can be used in combination with a 3.0 liter V6 putting out 220 horsepower and 221 lbs-ft of torque. Performance of the Multitronic is excellent. In 0-100 kph tests, the Multitronic is 1.3 seconds faster than a regular automatic transmission and .1 second faster than the manual gearbox. Economy is 2.2 mpg better than an automatic equipped vehicle and .5 mpg better than one with a standard gearbox. The numbers are impressive, but how does it work?


If you have ever been on a snowmobile, then you have experienced a CVT. Apply the throttle and the engine revs up. Keep the throttle applied and the vehicle speed keeps increasing, while the engine rpm stays fairly constant. The engine is operated at optimum rpm for best performance while the transmission does all the work. Snowmobiles use rubber belts. Audi uses a chain.

The key component of the Multitronic is the Variator. It allows reduction ratios to be adjusted continuously as the vehicle is being driven. The Variator has two tapered disc pairs - a set of primary drive pulleys and a set of secondary driven pulleys. A special chain runs between the two pulleys to transmit power to the drive wheels. The Variator's pulleys are adjusted in and out by a computer controlled hydraulic valve body to change the position of the chain on the pulleys and thus the gear ratio.

The chain is not a conventional multi-plate with free pivot pin design. Instead, this CVT design uses adjacent rows of plates linked together with cradle type pressure pieces (oval shaped pins). The cradle type pressure pieces are "jammed" between the taper pulleys of the Variator as the pulleys are pressed together. Torque is transmitted only by the frictional force between the ends of the cradle pieces and the contact faces of the pulleys.

As the cradle pieces are pushed together, the chain locks to form a solid curve around the pulley. The locked chain acts as one piece to transmit torque. As the pulley rotates, the chain cradle type pieces have the pressure removed when they leave the pulley and begin to move freely. This special chain acts like a solid piece of metal as it contacts the pulleys but like a flexible link as soon as the pressure is released. You might expect a lot of wear on the chain as the cradle type pieces move on the pulleys. Tests by Audi show less than 1mm wear on the chain in 300 thousand kilometres of driving. When the chain does wear, the computer can compensate by moving the pulleys closer together.

To change vehicle direction, two engagement "wet" clutches are used. One for forward and one for reverse. A planetary gearset is used in conjunction with the clutches to change direction. These clutches are applied when the shifter is placed in drive or reverse.

No torque converter is used in the Multitronic. This reduces transmission weight and size. Instead, the chain is allowed to slip on the pulleys when the vehicle is stopped, and it is gripped progressively to provide a smooth take-off. Shaft speed sensors allow the computer to monitor operation and the computer can engage "hill holder" function to provide just enough pressure on the chain to prevent the vehicle from rolling backwards. In operation, it drives much like a vehicle with a torque converter.

Although the Multitronic is a continuously variable transmission, it can be shifted into manual gear ranges if desired. When used in Tiptronic mode, the driver can shift the transmission with buttons on the steering wheel. The computer operates the pulley ratios in six distinct steps.

Currently Audi is only using the Multitronic in front wheel drive applications but are looking at using it in their Quattro applications as well. It's impressive technology. We'll have to watch and see if it wins this year's Best New Technology award.


Jim Kerr is a master automotive mechanic and teaches automotive technology. He has been writing automotive articles for fifteen years for newspapers and magazines in Canada and the United States, and is a member of the Automotive Journalist's Association of Canada (AJAC).

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Orjinalden alıntı: NeOzguR

Merhabalar arkadaşlar benim bazı sorularım olacaktı.Şimdi diyelim Passat Exclusive paket aldık.Şimdi onda olmayan bazı donanım özelliklerini aldıktan atıyorum 1-2 sene sonra vw servislerinde ekletebilir miyiz?Mesela elektrikli açılır tavan,dynaudio ses sistemi,xenon far gibi,elektrikli sürücü koltuğu vs gibi.Şimdi niye direk Highline almıyorsun denilebilir fakat o kadar bütçe yok maalesef.Zaten dikkat edilirse sonradan eklenecek parçalar belli zaman sonra olursa olur mu diye soruyorum.

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Orjinalden alıntı: tanergode

Ben hastayım

Fena hastayım hem de...

Gece uyandım, tabii çünkü dayanamadım ... (!) Otoparka gittim, görenler beni ya sapık ya da oto faresi sanacak diye de çok korktum. Halbuki ben kendi çapında, evli, 2 çocuklu, basit bir aile babasıyım, sizin gibi

Passat'ımın anahtarını çıkardım ve kapıları açtım. Coming Home'dan ötürü ortalık Körkuyu Köyünden kız kaçırma manzarasına dönüştü ama neyse kapıyı açtım ve farlar söndü. OOOoooohhh o koku, o koku var ya, Allah'ım, dedim içimden, bu kokudan kimseyi mağdur etme. Ciğerlerimin en en en ucra köşesine ulaştı diyebilirim aromatik molekülleri taşıyan oksijen ve azot karışımı hava. Anahtarı START yuvasına taktım. Araç birden canlandı, Christine filimndeki sahnenin aynısı yaşandı diyebilirim. Scorpions'tan I'm Still Loving You MP3 olarak çalmaya başladı (Barış, bu tesadüf mü?).

Marşa bastım, kriinnk kraannk motor birden 600 devirle dönmeye çalıştı. Klimayı da açtım... oooohhhh içeri mis gibi VW Fabrikası Havasıyla doldu. Cumartesine hazırlık yavrum, dedim GÜMÜŞ GÖLGE'me... Range'a bastım, 200 km dedi, 600 yapmıştım, eder 800. Yani 45 litrelik 150 YTL benzinle 800 km, which car can beat this???

Öpüldünüzzzz...

TANER GÖDE (sosis gibi kızarmış, salam gibi terlemiş, sucuk gibi yanmıştır)

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Orjinalden alıntı: meke

quote: Orjinalden alıntı: mulligun bende merak ediyorum nasıl bir deneyim olacağını. düşünmesi bile keyif veriyor insana.

Mulligun, şimdi bulabildim,

senin A4 1,8 multitronic için verilen şanzıman "Multitronic(R) Electronically Controlled Continuously Variable Automatic Transmission With Overdrive" olarak belirtilmiş.
Yani CVT.
Manuel kullanım için 6 tane vites kullanıma sunulur diyor.

dolayısıyla vites geçişlerini hiç hissetmiyeceksin, sonsuz bir hızlanma modu seni bekliyor olacak.

quote: Multitronic is Audi's name for their new continuously variable transmission. The continuously variable transmission (CVT) concept, based on the long-established principle of the chain drive transmission has been improved by Audi for use in high performance premium segment vehicles. Audi recently presented this technology to the "Best New Technology" panel of the Automobile Journalists Association of Canada (AJAC) at their annual Car of the Year test-fest. One technology will be awarded this year's AJAC Best New Technology award in the new year. Will the Audi Multitronic be the winner? According to Audi, this transmission sets new standards in driving performance and fuel economy, as well as in handling dynamics and comfort. It can be used in combination with a 3.0 liter V6 putting out 220 horsepower and 221 lbs-ft of torque. Performance of the Multitronic is excellent. In 0-100 kph tests, the Multitronic is 1.3 seconds faster than a regular automatic transmission and .1 second faster than the manual gearbox. Economy is 2.2 mpg better than an automatic equipped vehicle and .5 mpg better than one with a standard gearbox. The numbers are impressive, but how does it work? If you have ever been on a snowmobile, then you have experienced a CVT. Apply the throttle and the engine revs up. Keep the throttle applied and the vehicle speed keeps increasing, while the engine rpm stays fairly constant. The engine is operated at optimum rpm for best performance while the transmission does all the work. Snowmobiles use rubber belts. Audi uses a chain. The key component of the Multitronic is the Variator. It allows reduction ratios to be adjusted continuously as the vehicle is being driven. The Variator has two tapered disc pairs - a set of primary drive pulleys and a set of secondary driven pulleys. A special chain runs between the two pulleys to transmit power to the drive wheels. The Variator's pulleys are adjusted in and out by a computer controlled hydraulic valve body to change the position of the chain on the pulleys and thus the gear ratio. The chain is not a conventional multi-plate with free pivot pin design. Instead, this CVT design uses adjacent rows of plates linked together with cradle type pressure pieces (oval shaped pins). The cradle type pressure pieces are "jammed" between the taper pulleys of the Variator as the pulleys are pressed together. Torque is transmitted only by the frictional force between the ends of the cradle pieces and the contact faces of the pulleys. As the cradle pieces are pushed together, the chain locks to form a solid curve around the pulley. The locked chain acts as one piece to transmit torque. As the pulley rotates, the chain cradle type pieces have the pressure removed when they leave the pulley and begin to move freely. This special chain acts like a solid piece of metal as it contacts the pulleys but like a flexible link as soon as the pressure is released. You might expect a lot of wear on the chain as the cradle type pieces move on the pulleys. Tests by Audi show less than 1mm wear on the chain in 300 thousand kilometres of driving. When the chain does wear, the computer can compensate by moving the pulleys closer together. To change vehicle direction, two engagement "wet" clutches are used. One for forward and one for reverse. A planetary gearset is used in conjunction with the clutches to change direction. These clutches are applied when the shifter is placed in drive or reverse. No torque converter is used in the Multitronic. This reduces transmission weight and size. Instead, the chain is allowed to slip on the pulleys when the vehicle is stopped, and it is gripped progressively to provide a smooth take-off. Shaft speed sensors allow the computer to monitor operation and the computer can engage "hill holder" function to provide just enough pressure on the chain to prevent the vehicle from rolling backwards. In operation, it drives much like a vehicle with a torque converter. Although the Multitronic is a continuously variable transmission, it can be shifted into manual gear ranges if desired. When used in Tiptronic mode, the driver can shift the transmission with buttons on the steering wheel. The computer operates the pulley ratios in six distinct steps. Currently Audi is only using the Multitronic in front wheel drive applications but are looking at using it in their Quattro applications as well. It's impressive technology. We'll have to watch and see if it wins this year's Best New Technology award. Jim Kerr is a master automotive mechanic and teaches automotive technology. He has been writing automotive articles for fifteen years for newspapers and magazines in Canada and the United States, and is a member of the Automotive Journalist's Association of Canada (AJAC).